, precision recrowned, and rechambered to . Superb round - right smack in the middle of Unique's wheelhouse. 357 Start loads in . 35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. 357 Magnum cases. Sorry to say I sold it. 358 according to them. 357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. 1 8 . 0-inch barrel, but it can also be downloaded to powderpuff loads. An amount I don't recall off hand. * use magnum primers. 685" or longer) to accommodate that greater COL, letting you use a bit more powder and get a bit more velocity out of your loads for the same peak pressure. Larry Gibson What is a 357 Max going for? Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Share on WhatsApp Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest. The pressures of the 357 magnum is high enough to form a ring in the chamber of the weapon and if it gets deep enough it will damage the maximum brass by "cutting" it at the groove. 32 Auto. The average MV of those 4 loads is 1672. 0 (990fps) - maximum 9. Speer Number 10. 357 magnum & 158's in the past. C. Jan 13, 2022 · Unique is a good plinking load in my experience, for hot loads in a mag revolver I would think of others unless I was down to my big Unique can load anything so I'll keep this in reserve jug. I also have the original box, some paperwork, extra barrel tube (appears to be never fired) unfortunately no barrel tool. Nov 3, 2020 · However, I often play with reduced loads. 7 MAX. Got them to the range on Wednesday and had some leading issues. Aug 22, 2013 · I realize the 357 Maximum was designed as a "balls to the wall" caliber, but I've grown tired of the blast from full throttle loads. Their new tests on recent powder samples have shown high pressure spikes that can damage personal property or injure you. Unique is a wonderful choice, but as Beagle333 stated I cannot find any. 0 grains Unique in . bullet. 8 gr at a velocity of 1326 fps. Jan 20, 2008 · I don't have a . Any favorite pet loads/bullets out there for deer thumpers. 357 Magnum Has Also Been chambered In Dan Savage Model 24VS 357 MAXimum 20 Ga Description: Sale Pending Savage Model 24VS. 357 Maximum Description: This is a Dan Wesson Super Mag in 357 Maximum. 158 LSWC 12. I may make a small batch in the 357 cases @ 4. You might look in the Blue Book of Gun Values to see for yourself. 1 MAX. 10mm Auto. 2 * 1272 6. Pistol grip. 357’s maximum case length is 1. 270 . 3 H110 start 15. 5gr Unique with the 160gr swc @1015. I'm basically wondering how high I can go in a 357 case. 8 gr unique 1035 fps 14" barrel MP=1302 PSI Last edited by Artful; 01-15-2014 at 09:41 PM . 290 inches, so the one case was right at maximum. Unique 7. 1376 ** 12. 25 fps. Member . 308 Winchester energy levels, but with much less powder, less muzzle The . 357 Maximum shotgun adapters for a 12 Gauge Break Action Shotgun allow you to use 357 Maximum as well as Magnum in addition to 38 Special Ammo. 5 grains will get you there and leave you with a little headroom to spare (Hodgdon's maximum load of Universal in . 357 Magnum cases, that uses the 158 grain plain base SWC and just a little less Unique, 5. 7grs according to the previous Winchester data. 357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1 Dec 30, 2005 · Reloading data with Unique for: 357 mag, 158 grain JHP 44 mag, 200 grain JHP 44 mag, 240 grain JHP Interested in med. 4gr with a 158gr RN @1000fps. I'm not that retentive just looking at the book . 10 gauge. The 357 Maximum, formally known as the. The first handgun to chamber the round was the Ruger Blackhawk . 20 gauge. 5 1312 12. Jun 1, 2022 · In Lyman's old manual (44th ed. 0 gr. 357 cases; lots of flexibility in between . 4 As far as Unique and the . I dropped all the way to 6. 158 LSWC 6. Wood finish very good. 9 max at 15. I shot that load for years but now consider 7. 0 grains as max in a 38 case but it doesn't list Unique for this bullet in a 357 load. 5-6. Accuracy is good, Jan 27, 2013 · Lyman #49 shows Unique minimum 7. 357 Maximum is my favorite caliber for Contender. They should be perfict for the 357 rem max loads I guess around 1200 fps or what's the fastest for powder coated with a gas check . 0 & 12. 0 3. Any ideas, thoughts, HELPFUL comments are greatly appreciated. 3 gr. 6 1189 8. AA #9 (both accurate) sm pistol mag. 357 K-Frame, which was designed a long time ago around a low-pressure . SIE JHC in the 357 magnum with a listed max load of 15. 357 Magnum, it created a phenomenon. 2 W296 using a small rifle primer and hard crimp. 8 grains booking at about 1,400 The . Discussion: Universal and Unique are good for lighter bullets, but if you want a slower burning powder, I suggest H-4227, Lil’Gun, W-296,2400, HS6 or No. Nov 7, 2013 · My favorite calibers to load/shoot are . 357 Magnum case you can use . 5” Blackhawk . I will go ahead with Unique for these . , 11,500 mfg. 357 cases from 4" bbl. Jun 8, 2016 · My favorite loading of all calibers with Unique: 357 Mag with a 125gn JHP bullet. Barrel selector on hammer, functions fine. 243 . BTW, 17 gr of H-110 fills the case to 105% of capacity in other words, a compressed load. H110 seems to have a pretty narrow band in which it works. Fryxell. You get below that that and it just "Fizzles". That isn't true, but neither is it so But I thought it would be nice to be able to interchange the . 355") so a 35k psi load is 35,200 CUP, a far cry from 45,000. I've found that it really doesn't matter with Unique over a chronograph. For example, a number of CB loads in the old Lyman manual show max loads of Herco of over 11 gr for bullets from 121-158 gr (p117 of the 44th ed. All original. Jul 9, 2020 · I have a Thompson/Center (made by S&W) 12" 357 mag that I have not shot yet. for plinkers, I load 5. 357 S&W Magnum, . It seems to perform well with 125's. Unique, sm pistol primer 357 mag. 357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge Page. This bullet is a 215 gr. 610. Its a pointed boolit also, that has very little drop out to 240 yards, its maximum potential for deer and smaller game. 610 so a SuperMag case may bind up the cylinder. ) The latest Lyman man. 357 Magnum accuracy efforts and for relaxing plinking sessions with quality . Feb 7, 2020 · In the big case, you can get there with a faster powder than Unique that will burn cleaner at lower pressure, like Hodgdon Universal, for which about 5. 357 Max, especially since the case is a little longer. 357 Maximum Blackhawks were made from 1982 to 1984, yours was made in 1983. The cartridge—intended for handgun hunters and metallic silhouette shooters—was designed to generate energy levels comparable to the . 7 gr. 35 Rem. Shortly thereafter, In-depth solution and explanation for LeetCode 357. I have only shot jacketed bullets in it . 357-caliber revolver utilizing a cartridge case . 357 Rem. This cartridge is a . May 8, 2008 · The . 6 Winchester 296 Speer CCI 550 18. 357 Mag Case Prepping. 357 Remington Maximum is one potent game harvesting machine with more energy potential than factory . 35 cal. Look at all old Alliant data here Welcome to Castpics And i am sure some old Speer data will possible take you gun apart? Included here. 357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Oct 22, 2010 · What is the usual practice with reloading the 357 Maximum ? Pistol or rifle primers ? Standard or magnum primers ? I was going to do what I do with the 357 mag, small pistol for moderate loads using Unique, and small pistol magnum primers for slow burning powders like H110. In Lyman's 50th. 997fps!8,900 cup standard, . I have noticed that some folks do otherwise. 095" longer than SAAMI maximum COL, though many . I don't really load many . That's strange. Oct 11, 2017 · I'm torn between using the 357 Max, 45 Colt, or 445 SM this year especially when I could use any of my center fire bottle neck rifles on private property. 45 Colt tests found that at the 1100 FPS level using a 250 gr. The relatively thin-walled cartridge cases must remain intact when a round is fired. Mar 9, 2020 · The SAAMI MAP (Maximum Average Pressure) for the 357 Magnum is 35,000 psi. 282 inches. Oct 18, 2018 · The Hornady 147-grain XTP is match quality. 5 H4227 start 14. It is great for both . Max. Jan 11, 2023 · The Plus P, 38 special max load is 6. One revolver, my M-28 Highway Patrolman, likes 8. 2 gr Unique as a maximum load. 94 inHg Shots: # FPS / FT-LBS 5 1490 / 887 4 1546 / 955 3 1576 / 993 2 Mar 4, 2003 · I will caution against using 357 magnum brass in the maximum. LSWC, and would like to shoot the same bullet in a general duty 357 Mag cartridge using Unique. I do shoot a lot of . If you are not loading at or near max, you can substitute the Magnum primers. ), there are several loads for Herco in . Accuracy was good. 350 Legend is 55,000 psi, measured by piezoelectric transducer. . Forum Posts Aug 7, 2018 · When you use a 38 Special cannelure or crimp groove in the 357, it comes out 0. If you can find a gun to shoot the . 7 max at 18. It was going to be Norwich's answer to the weight problem of the model 40 as being slightly shorter, the weight was less than the max. Just saw this question. Wesson [ 2 ] [ 3 ] of firearm manufacturers Smith & Wesson and Winchester . Jun 18, 2016 · For years I have really liked Unique for mid range loads in 357, 41 mag, 40 S&W dirt n all - it is so wonderfully versatile. when necked Feb 20, 2014 · My Speer #8 shows a max of 6. magnum. 357 Magnum cartridge, IMHO, it's hard to beat the 158 cast bullet and 5. 357 bullet, the max listed charge weight for W-296 is 17. 38s. 357 for 10 years prior to that). It is an extremely accurate bullet in the 357 Maximum as well as the 38 Special or 357 Mar 6, 2020 · A max charge of 27. H110 or W296 is. 38 and . I would prefer to use Unique or 2400 powder as that is what I have on hand. 110 JHP (vel. 357 Magnum rounds. 0gr, 158gr jacketed XTP is 7. I'm trying to figure out a value for this Dan Wesson 357 Maximum. Feb 14, 2016 · Unique 5. A better way to look at it might be that 357 maximum is 100-150 fps faster than 357 magnum, and 35 remington is Jan 20, 2023 · H110 is the one powder that I stay near max loads. Both of these boolits are plain base and leave not a hint of leading at an MV of 1360 fps. 357" is just slightly larger than 9mm (. 0 grains of H4227 and a 180 Apr 30, 2011 · Yes I knew the powders weren't the same and from my heavy . Mar 7, 2022 · General consensus on 357 maximum for deer hunting whitetails, Looking to pick up a contender pistol in super 14. 357 Maximum was designed to do. Titegroup (very accurate) sm pistol primer None of the above exceeds maximum loadings per the manuals on hand, and have worked well to my satisfaction. 357 Magnum, or 9×33mmR (as it is known in unofficial metric designation) is a smokeless powder cartridge with a 0. ; you can certainly safely reduce to anywhere in between . Dec 28, 2014 · I have a Contender carbine in 357 max. Never had it chronographed but it’s accuracy is pretty good. 357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. 2 grs to max, if I recall, of 6. bullet weight in a strong H&R action, and less pressure development in the 357Max case, it should be a wash. 22,400 cup +P. 1gr, velocity of 1189 according to Alliant with a 6 inch barrel. I really like W231 for the . 38 Super and rightfully so. 5 inch barrel either Unique or 2400 gave same performance with the correct amount of powder for each. Find the best reloading data for . To see if that was a problem, I measured a handful of sized Federal . " Strangely, in all my discussions of cartridges with Elgin, with his describing many cartridges he'd developed, formed brass for, had reamers made for, barrels chambered for and so forth, he never mentioned a 357 Magnum - 158 grain Version 9. 357 Maximum single-action revolver, introduced in 1983. Jan 16, 2015 · Maybe you guys can help. 357 MAXimum over 20 gauge. Has anyone come up with good loads since then? I have a Handi in . And very often there is a perception that, somehow, magnum equals better. The only things that have held me back is, I don't hunt much anymore, and I thought doing so might negatively impact resale value (not for me cause I have no intention of selling it Dec 1, 2009 · Unique 7. Mar 28, 2022 · The Speer 180FNHC is a great bullet for the Max but be aware of min velocity for decent expansion. 0 grains of Unique and a CCI small pistol primer (not magnum),and shooting them out of my Smith 66 and my Ruger LCR. 357 Magnum from various sources and bullet weights. Joe Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk Mar 16, 2016 · If 850 fps in a . 355") 93% Federal Just as you can use . 357 Max with a 16 1/2 bbl. 250 gr SP flat base 358" 5. 2 grains of Unique with this bullet in a 38 case. 357 Maximum Was Developed In The Early 80's By Ruger And Remington Arms as a Silhouette Cartridge For The Blackhawk Revolver. Max SAAMI pressure standard for 357 Mag is now 35k psi, down from 45 k psi. 357 mag. 357 Magnum load data you can find will be safe in the . This load gives 936 fps from a 6-inch barrel. [1] The . relined 10" blued Contender/G2 barrel. I use 2400 with fantastic results. All smokeless has a minimum pressure to ignite and burn Normally. I got a bunch of Unique and got 1000 S&S Cast 158 grain LSWC around BNH 16 sized at . The newer Speer #14 manual (published in 2007) uses the current SAAMI max pressure standard of 35,000 psi. 1326 7. 357 Maximum sent them down range into tight groups at 1730 fps velocity. This is considerably higher than the 40,000 psi MAP for the . May 9, 2011 · I have a fine little range load, put up in . 35 Remington. Nov 19, 2010 · AA#7 start 10. 357 with either a cast LRNFP bullet is 6. My loads are well below max pressures (around 1000fps for 125s and 158s SWCs. As far as accuracy some problems. 9 grains but that is not for standard frame . Dec 10, 2023 · Early DW 357 SuperMags were marked as chambered for 357 SuperMag and 357 Maximum both. I find the following text from the Rainier Ballistics website confusing. 357 Max, is a super magnum handgun cartridge originally developed by Elgin Gates as the wildcat. At 9. 17 . 38's, or . Jul 19, 2023 · May help to know that the 357 SM case has the same case capacity as the 7 BR, 6 BR or the 7 TCU. 310-inch elongation of the . around 2000fps) IMR 4227 - 25. 38 spl and it works ok for lead bullets in the . 357 Smith & Wesson Magnum, . 38 brass than . In non-magnum loadings Unique works best near the upper pressure limits but I've never considered it a optimal powder for magnum loads. 357 magnum. Count Numbers with Unique Digits in Python, Java, C++ and more. Aug 23, 2008 · I'm kind of new to cast bullets. 357 they list a max charge of 9. Think I have used it for . So far, max load I've seen is 6 gr. Apr 13, 2014 · In a rifle length barrel and considering another 30gr. for 158 lswc and 9. 357 loaded to the max and shoot . 357 mag ammo, and don't really burn much of that these days. 1328 8. Compatible with Break Action single as well as double barrel shotgun. Mar 25, 2010 · My Speer #9 is at another house. 357 also lead to the creation of the . 38 Jun 28, 2011 · Funny you just posted i recently bought unique for my 357 mag. With the right powder, it can push light- and mid-weight bullets as fast as the . 04-inch group. 0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain . My 158 grain cast SWC bullet load in all my . Any . Magnum primers are recommended. barrels available, target sights, 53 oz. 3 1188 20. Selected bullet: 357 Magnum #A8360–36. I have Clays, Red Dot, Unique, 2400, HP-38, AA1680 and Lil' gun on the reloading bench. 6 (1259) - maximum 9. 357's. Feb 17, 2021 · The other was squib loads with bullets stuck mid way in the barrel. for 125 gr. 38. 357 Maximum, . I have specialized loads for some applications, but the 5. 5 gr. Of course, I can always shoot . rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the . Shooting the . 2, she runs 1312 f/s through a 3" bbl. 38 Special, 357 Magnum, or 357 Maximum ammunition in this revolver. The loadings and velocities were fairly close to the max, considering the case was Nov 15, 2016 · However, they are very unique, and it might be difficult to find someone interested enough to buy one. This beefed up, elongated . Another FYI . Nickel finish is very good. 357 Remington Maximum beats many of the traditional factory loaded "deer cartridges" such as . I am told that it will have a long throat and I should be able to seat the bullets out for increased powder space and get as much velocity as the 357 maximum revolver loads. 1276 8. Jun 23, 2011 · the max in the Speer book says: 357 5. 8 gr of Unique to launch a 162 gr RN or more recently a 170 gr. Is Hodgdon H110 a good option for maximum velocity loads? Yes, Hodgdon H110 is widely regarded for its suitability in high-velocity . This high-pressure cartridge dictated a heavy bullet for maximum performance as well as superb accuracy. I keep my loads to 1,100 FPS in the . I once was in our LGS and told the fellas that I shoot fool hens with my 357. 38 case, likely 750-775 fps in a . U can't nique up on velocity much with it. Nov 16, 2013 · I had, have, a lot more . 1,125 H4227 12. 357 Magnum has also been chambered in Dan Wesson revolvers as well as several single shot rifles and pistols including the T/C Contender. 5 gr Alliant Unique under a 358477 (150 gr) in Winchester cases using WSP primers at 37,300 psi. This first step is probably the most important, especially for magnum handgun cartridges. seems like a pretty wide spread considering the documented velocity is 1040 for both. 7. CCI’s . 357 from the start, with a beefed-up forcing cone and top strap. 7 1218 Power Pistol 9. 315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. Maximum, 7 1/2 or 10 1/2 in. I have lots of maximum brass and prefer it to 38/357. Unique and occasionally 2400 or AA#9 is used for cast bullets. Once again, these are max loads in these manuals. -Mike Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Share on WhatsApp Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Jun 29, 2012 · Unique is a good powder for light/medium loads but you want something that burns slower to build pressure more gradually for magnum loads. 357 Max cartridges into the cylinders. 158gr lead max is 6. After reaming your chamber longer for 357 max, when you shoot 357 mag the bullet has to jump a longer distance before engaging the rifling. Mar 15, 2021 · The necked-down . Feb 17, 2024 · Alliant Unique is popular due to its versatility, consistent performance across various calibers, and ability to deliver optimal energy for . 32 H&R Magnum. Feb 12, 2018 · 357 mag Unique powder data Unique is not for hot. Unique powder drove 20 of them into this 1. I built a reduced load 38 Spl load with a Magnus 158 gr. And you can reload . Oct 23, 2018 · The . 6 1259 9. 0. , but without the Oct 16, 2020 · The . cast SWC bullet (Lyman #358477) that I make myself and use them in brass cases. Most accurate out of my Encore Max rifle- 24" MGM 1:14tw. Jan 4, 2008 · The 8 inch barrel pistol is a dan wesson 357 super mag in 357 rem maximum . 224 . 280 to 1. 0 grs WW231 under 158 gr cast SWC. bullet out of a 2. 3 grains max std 917 fps fps +P is Unique 5. 5 grains of Unique. 357, jacketed 125 grain, H110 , 21 grains is the starting and 22+ (compressed load) is the maximum. 357 Maximum for target practice. 0 Horn. Mar 11, 2022 · 357 mag. 8gr in 357 Magnum brass, or slightly over 10% above the plus P load. at 1632fps. I have also loaded 9 rounds using Federal Small Rifle Primers and 20 grains of H110. I use 8. Oct 25, 2016 · Using a common 158gr jacketed . Answer – it’s all about the access to power…!! Dec 24, 2011 · I have some Rainier Ballistics "lead safe" bullets (copper plated, 158gr FP) that I would like to load in . It was created by Elmer Keith , Phillip B. 6. 357 Maximum reamer. 38/. 0gr for hard cast and you can go to 6. 9 pellets, and the . Compare with other calibers and powders on Shooter's Reference. May 14, 2011 · Makes me wonder if for example a 170 GR. I would not drop below that 15 grain charge. 9 2400 start 11. Starline Brass Star357MAXEU Unprimed Cases 357 Maximum 100/Pack. 357s is 7. Dec 5, 2019 · So while I would use 6 grains of Unique behind a 158gr LSWC for about 1000 fps, I wouldn't consider Unique as a candidate for more speed with that bullet in a 357 mag. Oct 26, 2016 · My fav load for the 357 and cast 158's is 6grs Unique. for . 16. 224/357 has 4 diffrent shoulder angles 17 , 22 , 30 and the 45 , some have the shoulder pushed back and yet others bump it out , It has been necked down as far as . For most of my big-bore sixgun loads I use straight wheelweights for loads under 1,100 fps; however, with the smaller diameter . The 357 max is a very versatile caliber. 357 in (9. 38 Spec max load and . It was designed as a . This beefed Up, elongated . 6 (1343fps) When I started loading about 35 years ago, Unique and Bullseye were just about the only powders that I used, but then I only loaded . For 3″ as well as 2. 0 grains puting me in the red at 950 fps 38 special 4. 35 Remington, roughly equal to factory . I should think you could use that data to try unique, though I tend to think I would start at 6. 357 Magnum load data in a . 357 Sig. If you go too low - just watch out for Squibb's. 357 Mag. OHIO. 1 1216 AA #9 13. 357 Max with the Pistol pac barrels--sort of like a "super pistol pac" with an assortment of barrels and the choice of max vs. shoots minute of grouse heads. After those cases had been fired with light and heavy loads, they varied in length from 1. I think I would of had lead running out of my barrel. 1 AA#9 start 11. Apr 2, 2013 · Standard primers. Ghost ring rear and fiber front sight installed. 07 mm) bullet diameter. My Ideal Handbook #38 (1951) lists Unique 5. Jan 6, 2004 · Unique - 11. It was for long-range pistoleering — the IHMSA challenge of accuracy and power at range. 357 mag too. 357 Max so any . 357 revolvers, like Ruger, have a cylinder long enough (1. Dennis is creating bullets that will someday be as common as Hornady, Sierra, Speer, etc. I will probally shoot these in the carbines. 357 Maximum,, load it with a heavy (180 grn or heavier) bullet with a matching powder,, it's a Jan 4, 2024 · The . This load was based on 1997 Winchester load data for 158 gr lead bullet using WW231 powder (a low of 6. jhp. 300 Savage, and not far behind . 357 Maximum, buy it and try it! Jun 4, 2021 · Once upon a time RCBS sold a . 1gr. 357 that use pretty large amounts of powder, even some compressed loads. 357 Magnum bullets I prefer a harder alloy and normally mix lead and type metal in equal amounts. 6 * MAX. 7 (1359fps) No load data in Hornady #8 Speer # 14 shows Unique minimum 8. `1979 . 357 Maximum cartridges to produce the desired results in the field. Jan 17, 2021 · But let's step back and look at what the . Mar 25, 2010 · My Lyman 45th edition lists 8 grains Unique as maximum for a 158 gr lead bullet with gas check. Gun is in incredible shape though. 357 case?) On a side note, 7. Nov 5, 2007 · And apparently,, many other guns have done the same thing,, by other manufacturers. of Unique with a 150 gr. 20 inch barrels. Alliant Unique Speer CCI 500 8. 5 Grendel, 30-06 Springfield, 300 BLK, 44 Mag, 357 Maximum, 9mm, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 30 Carbine, and 45-70. May 27, 2009 · My preference has been Unique, Blue Dot, and 2400 though I have AA#9, W296 and a little H110 around. 30/30 Winchester and . 3 max at 11. Maximum effective range ect TIA Ron Set: 59 Created: 06/29/15 11:18 AM Description: dan Wesson 357 super mag 10" barrel Notes 1: 21. Blacktop. Jul 4, 2015 · Since I have several hundred new 357 Maximum cases from another project (7 MM Super Max), I often toyed with having my 357 Mag opened up to the 357 Max chambering. Accurate now part of Hodgdon. I ruined my first contender barrel in 357 maximum doing just that. and have found it to be very versatile. I am not sure about the loading data in the Lee manual. Maximum. 315 inches longer than a standard . 5. 38 brass pushing a 158 SWC is a mildly +P load that's an old standby and well known. . 357 magnum using 125-grain bullets. A l cartridge measurements are SAAMI maximum and due to variations from manufacturers Dec 29, 2017 · The . 222 Rem. 357 load is 14gr of 2400 under a Zero 158gr JHP. You can use . My brother has one and scoped it is as accurate as any rifle at 100 yards with the right load. My Lyman 45th edition lists 8 grains Unique as maximum for a 158 gr lead bullet with gas check. Anyone have any idea of a value in todays market value? Dan Wesson Super Mag . 3 gr of Unique was giving me about 1050 fps for 158 gr JFP in . Feb 8, 2003 · 38s in 357 Max Smokin 54, I shoot 38 special wadcutters in my 357 Custom shop carbine barrel all the time!! I bought it to use for deer hunting with 180 grain LBT's in a max case, but I also use it for indoor 25 yard shooting with the basic 148 grain wadcutter and 3. Because the . 357 SIG cartridge allows for greater powder capacity than a straight-wall case of similar length behind a 9 mm projectile. 357. At the time I had just switched primers and I was relatively early in my use of PC coatings. I originally planned on using Hornady 180gr XTPs, but have been considering simply using hardcast lead in the 180-210gr range. 357 Maximum T/C Contender in 14-Inch Barrel reloading data with 22 loads. 357 Maximum in a Contender comes close to . Nov 23, 2018 · . 38 in my . Crkckr, FYI, all pressure testing is done in SAAMI approved test barrels. 357 load contains approximately 135 No. HS-6 9. This is exactly the same as the SAAMI MAP for the . The alloy I was using back in the day gave me a 192 gr. May 25, 2020 · At 180 grain, there is a slight, but not a huge difference. 1 grains of WW231. 357 Mag's in it be sure to thoroughly clean the cylinders afterward or the powder residue will prevent you from getting . 357 loads through a Smith & Wesson Model 19 . I'd like to shoot cast bullets, primarily at paper and plinking targets. Then we go up to 35 remington, and again not a huge difference, but there is some. This looks trivial at first glance, but the Maximum chamber is 1. 290 inches in length. 9" Sig BARREL Twist 1-16" GRS. 158 LSWC 5. 357 Maxi issue. I load mostly 158 grain in . So if short on powder, they will work fine. 1288 7. Just food for thought. is the Maple 357 SM Martini, R. It has an 8 inch slotted not heavy barrel. Red Dot/Promo works almost as well. though and rather than shoot . 8925" oal Distance to Chrono(FT): 10. 38 Special load data in a . 357 I have tried Unique down to 4 grains and I do NOT load that anymore. 7 . Most people associate high velocity with the . Mar 7, 2013 · It seems that the info the search turned up were threads in the 2006-2008 eras. Super Mag was the original Elgin Gates name and DW was tight with silhouette and Elgin so they used that name instead of the Ruger/Remington SAAMI name. This is right at the edge of being "Sooty" in The SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) for the . It was a . 357 bullets . 12 gauge. Cases are comprised of mixed headstamps. 1 * 1102 Unique 7. This pistol does show signs of wear from use on the finish and on the grips. 38 round. 000 Bullet Weight(gr): 180. primer 357 mag. If I correctly recall, hasn't Alliant improved Unique to make it a little cleaner in its most recent releases? Mar 27, 2015 · If you shoot . The 360 is a shortened version of the 40; it's about half way between the mag and the max. Dec 22, 2013 · Alas, somewhere into development, I informed Elgin of Ruger's . The case is based on a lengthened . 605 while the SuperMag was a trim to length of 1. Jan 12, 2019 · The question can be asked that if we don’t require the extra power of the 357 Maximum over the 357 Magnum for silhouette competition or big game hunting, why would we want the Maximum. Recipes for heavier bullet weights are acceptable. 357 loads. 1,247 H4227 13. 357 Remington Maximum was developed in 1982 as a joint effort between Sturm, Ruger & Company and Remington Arms. Sorry I don't have one handy, further I do know that they can also chamber and shoot the standard . Members. je suis charlie Jul 22, 2020 · Maybe I'm answering my own question but I looked back at my notes and saw I had good luck with 4. 357 mold for a flat-point gas-check bullet. 357, so I keep the . But Bill's temper & a FEW gun writers attitudes caused the whole model to be discontinued. Jun 7, 2014 · 357 Maximum Subsonic load. loads Thanks Apr 5, 2014 · H110 has worked GREAT for me with the . 357 Remington Maximum is the . 16 gauge. 44 Special/Magnum, 170 pellets. The capsules are designed to break on contact with the rifling. The. 357 Maximum case. 357 Max, is a super magnum handgun cartridge originally developed by Elgin Gates as the wildcat . 0 grains. Unique for a few shots and work from there. 357 Maximum, formally known as the . 28 gauge. 357 Magnum. 357 Super Mag. 357 Maximum. The load gets me aroung 1600 fps. I think you should find what feels good to you Jun 29, 2012 · Unique is a relatively fast burning powder which limits how much you can use before you hit pressure. My plan is to ream the chamber to Maximum, and use it as 50-75 yard deer gun. 0 MAX. Nickel finish. 00 Ballistic Coefficient: 1. 357's maximum average pressure is specified at 35,000 psi. Jul 12, 2019 · The 350 legend is actually a 9mm not the same as a 357. 357s and my . The only advantage I see is that it shoots very accurately . Another couple powders that work well is AA1680 and AA5744. 3 grains of Unique, book says 700 fps 8 in barrel and so on. similar to New Model Blackhawk, except is chambered for . Now I'm fortunate to have acquired a good supply of Unique so its my main handgun powder these days. 5 1257 357 Sig - 115 grain Version 9. 357 but I'm not sure about the . 357 Magnum loads. Top strap flame cutting wasn't solely a . My Lyman manual lists 5. We package all our once fired brass in vacuum sealed bags. 357 mag as a wad cutter plinking load only and that was under max being given by a fair amount. 2 grains in the red at 800 fps. This will be a real "shooter" ! A superior Max! Can't tell if there is a liner inside or if it is all one piece! Precision 11 degree target crown. 38 Special, I'm inclined to think that they can. 5 grains of H110 and a 357 maximum with a starting load of 20 grains of H110, actually has more to do with the guns themselves commonly used with the maximum and the higher pressure the 357 maximum produces as the only differences in the load data. I have measured the pressure in a Contender test barrel of 7. 308 . The bore is clean and will make for a great shooter. 357 max although I did have a T/C barrel for my Contender at one time. 38's still, but I seem to just rely on factory . [2] Shortly thereafter, Dan Wesson Firearms Jul 1, 2022 · I’ve used in the past and will soon load more, a 357 Magnum mid range load using 6. The 180 grain #8370 Full Profile Jacket bullet (FPJ) was introduced in 1984 specifically for the 357 Maximum cartridge and the Handgun Silhouette game. It can, in a single shot, use the same powders. Mar 1, 2018 · . 2gr. 357's anymore, quite a few . Note: A complete article about the . Using bullets from Lyman 358156, Hornady JHP, Hornady JTC Silhouette, Speer FP, Speer FMJ, Sierra FPJ, Speer FNSP, Hornady RNSP, Hornady Spire Point, Lyman 358627, Hornady softpoint, Lyman 358318. 357 Maximum Loads My 12" custom Contender barrel does well with 20. 2 max at 12. Dec 31, 2020 · When, in 1935, Smith & Wesson launched the . 7gr at 1185 fps. I have been loading my 158 lswc hardcast over 8. 7 grs). 0 grains of Unique and the 158 grain cast SWC as its accuracy load. 357 Magnum ~ 158 Grain JHC ~ B. 0gr Unique with a 148gr swc @1041, and 5. Using a full charge of WW296 my 7. Unique is a good powder for light/medium loads but you want something that burns slower to build pressure more gradually for magnum loads. 100 . The lock up and timing are very tight and The popularity of the . 357 Mags out of the Max, but I prefer to shoot "full length" cartridges whenever possible. This protects the brass and inhibits tarnishing. Both listed as the max for that weight bullet but i just wanted to see how the max felt. Any good load suggestions out there? Are there any loads out there that'll push that bullet 1100 fps? Heavy Is Accurate. The Maximum case has a MAXIMUM length of 1. 2 gr of H-110 is a 100% full case with a chamber pressure of 31,633 psi. in 1993, SAAMI lowered the chamber pressure for 357 Mags by a whopping 25%. 3 MAXIMUM CHARGE Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec) 357 Magnum START CHARGE 1200 1180 1282 > 357 Magnum ~ 158 Grain JHC ~ Trajectory Chart . 357 dies can be used, but older dies sets may not allow full sizing and/or seating on Max/Super Mag cases. 274 to 1. Imostly stay with gas check bullets in all . This happened with my H110 and several (three 357 Max and one 357AR Max) guns and seemed worse on some trips to the range at under 50 degf. I would like to shoot 158s for plinking and 180s for hunting. does from a 4. Thanks in advance. 357 magnum (although I carry 40 S&W's at work daily for the last 20 years, . 5 gr mp-300 CCI 550 SPM Rem brass Notes 2: 180 gr Hornady XTP 1. Oct 5, 2023 · 357 Maximum Shotgun Adapters for 12 Gauge Shotguns. This is a used Contender barrel I neatly, cleanly relined to . 2 grains. The 357 super mag Dan Wesson should Nov 18, 2010 · With the higher old 357 Mag pressure standard, that was considered a max load but with the new standard, it is 2,605 psi over max. Nov 2, 2021 · Hi everyone. 357 Magnum with a 4-inch barrel resulted in 55 pellet holes in a pattern shot 12 feet from the muzzle. in a 357 I was using 3. They measured from 1. If you take a . is the DW SS 357 SM / 30 cal Jan 4, 2019 · . 357 Maximum, and suddenly Elgin Gates had developed the ". Feb 25, 2009 · But in my 357 3" & 3. I just wish I had picked up a barrel for myself when I had the chance. 3" H-S Prec BARREL Twist 1-16" GRS. and Sturm, Ruger and Co. Incidentally, the Lyman, Hodgdon, Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the . 357 Remington Maximum or the . I suggest that you read the article about cast bullets in the Max by Glen E. The 357 Maximum, originating from Ruger in the 1980s, is renowned for its magnum-level power and performance, particularly in single-shot handguns and rifles. That bullet is apparently a Lyman Nov 19, 2015 · As far as action strength no problem. I've ran this load up to 9. Made in Monson. Steve's Reloading Data Pages Cracked a Colt Trooper barrels forcing cone with hot 357 loads with 125 gr bullets. POWDER CHG. 357 Magnum barrel and a brand new PTG . I am sure it lists 7 grains Unique as maximum for 158 grain lead bullets. 5 " Unique gets real "Sooty" when downloaded. Recoil is very pleasant. 45 acp and . 1,240 Hogdon Lilgun is an excellent powder for the 357 Mag, 357 Maximum, 44 Mag and 45 LC (Blackhawk and Jan 24, 2020 · I switched to Unique powder today for the . 357 Magnum case but with a small rifle primer pocket. In . I loaded up about 200 rounds with the recommended 6 grains of Unique for a nice mid range 357 mag load. Intuitions, example walk through, and complexity analysis. If you are at max, then reduce load by 10% when substituting magnum primers. 0 grains of Unique as both the Maximum and Accuracy loads. 6 grains (Speer #14 max), but settled on 9. 357 SuperMag. My favorite . You will get some inconsistent velocities if you get much below max. This mirrors my own findings. For . The . vel. 357 Magnum revolver round lengthened . Update: Alliant Powder Company does not recommend Blue Dot in the . the smaller bullets from 17 to 243 seem to do the best with the limited case cap of the max , which is just about the same as the . OD and ID is the same. 1 Mar 22, 2021 · Shooting the gun reveals a bit of bite in the hand, but this is certainly tolerable, especially with a heavier gun like the Encore. 0 * 1248 357 Sig - 124 grain 9mm (. Thanks, Dinny I reload and shoot 348 Win, 358 Win, 6. That enables it to propel 125-grain bullets at Dec 5, 2014 · The 44th and 43rd Lyman Manuals listed 8. 357 Remington Maximum or the. The SAAMI pressure limits are 35,000 PSI for the . 75″ Chambers. 357 Remington Maximum was announced as a joint venture between Remington Arms Co. Feb 6, 2024 · The 357 Maximum vs 350 Legend cartridges are two distinct options in the world of firearms, each with its unique characteristics and applications. 00 Temp: 72 °F BP: 29. this year I am using Titegroup. 8 Remington SPC rounds, both designed specifically for AR-15s. Yes those are gas checks on the 215 grain Keith style . I have the 357 Super Mag, model 40. Remington loads for the Maximum boasted impressive velocities of over 1800fps with 158 grain bullets and over 1550fps with 180 grain bullets. Oct 24, 2015 · To the very best of my knowledge, the L-Frame was designed specifically to overcome the shortcomings of the . _____ 357 REM Maximum Brass: We Offer Both New and Once Fired Brass in 357 REM Maximum Once Fired Brass: All once fired cases have been magnetically screened, machine sorted and meticulously hand inspected. 357 Maximum handgun cartridge. Unique: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. All you need do is work up the load. 357 Magnum loads simply because they seem to shoot a lot more accurately. 38 Spl. Not much reason for +P loadings. 0gr. We include additional cases in the event that Jan 8, 2019 · I recently picked up a CVA Scout Pistol, which came with a 14" . 357 Remington Maximum based on a wildcat created by Elgin Gates. Oct 28, 2010 · The book "Ruger and His Guns," lists specifications for the . Advantage 2 over the 357 max is that Mike Bellm Is having a hard time getting the Max off the ground. tend to do quite well in the . 0 grains should be 800 FPS. Sep 17, 2019 · The Fury Bullets are hands down the best bullet on the market for the 357 Max. SWC with gas check. The max listed load for the same 158gr bullet is 14. Apr 26, 2018 · Some authors claim the 357 Max has more potential energy and capability than the 30-30 and 35 Remington, especially if loaded to higher more modern pressures in guns capable of handling those pressures as your Max would be if on a sb2 receiver. 357 maximum is certainly more, but it is not 44 magnum more. SWC from a Lyman 358429 mold. 357 Magnum case. As a plinking small game rifle, I use the Lee 150 gr RNPB with Unique at 1250 FPS at the muzzle and it is very accurate out to 125 yards with my iron sights. I download (reduced load) 357 Mag brass for my Uberti 357 Mag Bisley SA revolver as well. Thanks, Dinny Dec 23, 2018 · A . 357 Maximum performance as, "158-grain semi-jacketed hollow point bullet, with a muzzle velocity of 1,825 feet per second, and 1,168 Sep 6, 2023 · . 357 magnum w/ cast bullets. 3 max at 16. L is the walnut Martini 357 SM, M. Jan 14, 2017 · I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. 223 Remington and 6. A 10% reduction for the starting load is 8. I load only lead BTW). The best load I have found for my DW and Ruger 357 Max is a cast Lyman #358627 over 19. 357 Mag and 40,000 PSI for the . Out of my B92 I get 1125fps. Oct 27, 2023 · Most of the rest of the year I use 7. Coefficients + Boundaries G1: Jun 15, 2015 · Using the Jamison 357 Maximum Brass and CCI Small Pistol Magnum primers for 30 rounds I am ready for another day at the range with the 357 Super Mag and the chrono. 5 is my absolute minimium with 150 grain. It lists a maximum load of 7 grains Unique for a 1 6 8 grain cast bullet, at 1157fps from a S&W Model 27. It was initially offered with a single factory load that contained a 158-grain jacketed bullet at an advertised 1,825 fps. This can negatively impact the accuracy of 357 magnum loads though every gun is unique so your's may be the exception to the rule. 357 Magnum revolvers. I have a 357 Henry steel Big Boy that likes 357 brass better than 38 special - I often "download" the 357 Mag brass to reduce ed loads using 38 special specs. 357 Super Mag = same caliber. Sharpe, [ 2 ] and Douglas B. 44 Mag. lxzhkvs ndvh qwqjdrs hxuss eyigolc tjuwaeo lxye crpeqto zrhyw jqrom